National Guard Time vs Active Duty Time

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"What's the difference between National Guard time and act of duty time?"

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The Postal Service allows employees to be absent:\n\n1. To participate in drills or meetings scheduled by the National Guard or Reserve Units of the armed forces.\n2. To attend usual summer training periods.\n3. To perform any other active duty ordered by the National Guard and Reserve Units of the armed forces.\n\nHowever, eligible employees are entitled to paid military leave only for such duty as and to the extent provided below.\n\n##### 517.12 Definition\n\n_Paid military leave_ is authorized absence from postal duties for hours the employee would have worked during his or her regular schedule, without loss of pay, time, or performance rating, granted to eligible employees who are members of the National Guard or reserve components of the armed forces.\n\nNote: Non-workdays are not charged against the paid military leave allowed.\n\n##### 517.13 Types of Duty\n\n###### 517.131 Duty Covered for Members of the Reserves and National Guard, Except D.C. National Guard\n\nTypes of duty covered as paid military leave include:\n\n1. Active duty, field, and coast defense training.\n2. Scheduled drills.\n3. Service providing military aid for law enforcement purposes.\n\n###### 517.132 Duty Covered for Members of the D.C. National Guard\n\nTypes of duty covered as paid military leave include:\n\n4. Parade or encampment activities of the D.C. National Guard.\n5. Service providing military aid for law enforcement purposes as provided in [517.43](https://about.usps.com/manuals/elm/html/elmc5_007.htm#ep445351).\n\n###### 517.133 Duty Not Covered\n\nTypes of duty _not_ covered as paid military leave include:\n\n1. Summer training as a member of Reserve Officer Training Corps.\n2. Temporary Coast Guard Reserve.\n3. Service with the National Guard, if ordered by the State Governors without authority of the Department of Defense, except when such service is in connection with regular annual encampment or for law enforcement purposes as specified in [517.43](https://about.usps.com/manuals/elm/html/elmc5_007.htm#ep445351).\n4. Training with a State Guard or other state military organization that is not a part of the National Guard or that was created to take the place of the National Guard during an emergency.\n5. Weekly drills as member of D.C. National Guard.\n6. Civil Air Patrol, established as a civilian auxiliary of the U.S. Air Force, and similar reserve and guard auxiliary organizations.\n7. Time taken on a workday to travel to the place where training is to begin, unless military training orders encompass the period of travel time required.\n\n#### 517.2 Eligibility\n\n##### 517.21 Eligible Employees\n\nCareer postal employees, i.e., full–time, part-time regular, and part-time flexible employees who are members of the following components of the armed forces, are eligible for paid military leave:\n\n1. The Army National Guard of the United States.\n2. The Army Reserve.\n3. The Naval Reserve.\n4. The Marine Corps Reserve.\n5. The Air National Guard of the United States.\n6. The Coast Guard Reserve.\n7. The Air Force Reserve.\n\n##### 517.22 Ineligible Employees\n\nPermitted to be absent, but not eligible for paid military leave, are noncareer employees such as the following:\n\n1. Casual employees.\n2. Contract workers.\n3. Noncareer rural carriers.\n4. Temporary employees.\n5. Transitional employees.\n\n#### 517.3 Procedures\n\n##### 517.31 Approval\n\nThe employee is to complete a PS Form 3971 before the period of absence. Sufficient notice is required for making necessary arrangements for replacements. If the employee does not learn of the need for the absence until later, notice is to be given as soon possible. The official responsible for approving the attendance record also approves military leave.\n\n##### 517.32 Use of Mixed Leave\n\nNormally the first days of a longer period of military duty are charged to military leave. If circumstances warrant it, any other scheduled workdays during the longer active duty period may be designated as military leave instead of the days at the beginning of the military duty.\n\n##### 517.33 Use of Leave Intermittently\n\nMilitary leave may be taken intermittently.\n\n##### 517.34 Return From Duty\n\nFor paid military leave approval, upon return from military duty to the Postal Service, the employee furnishes a copy of military orders or other documentation properly endorsed by appropriate military authority to show the duty was actually performed.\n\n#### 517.4 Military Leave Allowances\n\n##### 517.41 General Allowance\n\nEligible full–time and part-time employees receive credit for paid military leave as follows:\n\n1. _Full-time employees other than D.C. National Guard —_ 15 calendar days (120 hours) each fiscal year.\n2. _Part-time employees other than D.C. National Guard —_ 1 hour of military leave for each 26 hours in pay status (including military LWOP) in the preceding fiscal year provided:\n\n1. Employee was in pay status a minimum of 1,040 hours in the preceding fiscal year.\n\nNote: A part-time employee’s time on military LWOP in one fiscal year counts toward meeting the 1,040 hours’ requirement for the next fiscal year.\n\n3. Employee’s pay for military leave does not exceed 80 hours.\n\n4. _D.C. National Guard —_ all days (no limit) of parade or encampment duty ordered under Title 49, District of Columbia Code.\n\nAn employee may carry over up to 1 year’s allotted but unused (not to exceed 15 days) military leave from one fiscal year to the next.\n\n##### 517.42 Previous Service\n\nEmployees transferring to the Postal Service from other government agencies are entitled to credit for paid military leave purposes for government service performed prior to appointment as part-time employees. Any other creditable federal civilian service rendered during the prior fiscal year is also used in computing the required 1,040 hours. Creditable service is determined by requesting a transcript from the other agency detailing the number of hours in which the employee was in pay status.\n\n##### 517.43 Law Enforcement Allowance\n\n###### 517.431 State or Jurisdiction Duty\n\nEligible full–time and part-time employees who are members of the National Guard are granted additional paid military leave over and above the general allowance if they are ordered by appropriate authority to provide _military aid to enforce the law_ of their contracted state or their chartered jurisdiction (e.g., the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, or a territory of the United States). See approval procedures in [517.3](https://about.usps.com/manuals/elm/html/elmc5_007.htm#ep445293). The following provisions apply:\n\n1. Evaluation of Circumstances.\n\n1. _Qualifying Circumstances. Military_ aid is the kind of work characteristic of, or typically performed by, soldiers. Military aid to enforce the law means engagement in the suppression of riots, violent assembly, widespread looting, and civil disorder where the guardsman is ordered to perform state military duty under a state law that specifically confers law enforcement powers on the guardsman or under the authority of an executive order of the governor (or the highest authority of the jurisdiction) pursuant to state law that specifically confers on the governor the authority to confer law enforcement powers on activated guardsmen. Orders to provide assistance or support to law enforcement agencies do not constitute an order conferring law enforcement powers. The mere fact that national guardsmen in uniform perform a given function does not necessarily transform that function into military aid. The duty performed must be evaluated. Such additional military leave is granted only when an employee’s military orders (or other official documentation from the employee’s guard unit) specify that he or she was engaged in one or more of the activities and under the authority referenced above for the particular periods of military duty.\n2. _Nonqualifying Circumstances._ Additional military leave is not granted when military orders do not specify one or more of the duties and statutory requirements referenced in [517.431](https://about.usps.com/manuals/elm/html/elmc5_007.htm#ep445355)[a](https://about.usps.com/manuals/elm/html/elmc5_007.htm#ep445363)[1](https://about.usps.com/manuals/elm/html/elmc5_007.htm#ep445365) above. For example, it is not granted when an employee’s military orders simply indicate the employee was ordered to duty “for law enforcement purposes,” “to enforce the law,” “for state emergency active duty, “etc. It is not granted if the duties are top secret and the actual duties cannot be verified as meeting these requirements. It is not granted if the military orders state that the duty is to provide aid to civil authorities to protect life, preserve property, or prevent injury. Circumstances that do not qualify the employee for additional military leave include, but are not limited to, the following:\n 1. Activities that, although prompted by emergencies, _do not involve directly enforcing the law,_ such as when guardsmen are engaged in fighting fires, controlling floods, controlling routine crowds, cleaning up following natural disasters, eradicating controlled substances, providing transportation and/or services to persons engaged in law enforcement or other activities, or providing security for such missions.\n 2. Activities that, although they may have a collateral effect of enforcing the law, _do not involve military aid,_ such as when guardsmen are engaged in directing vehicular traffic, which may concern enforcement of traffic laws, or when a guardsman provides security for public events, buildings, or places, these duties do not constitute military aid to enforce the law.\n\n[... middle omitted — see footer ...]\n\n3. Use LWOP.\n4. Arrange a mutually agreeable trade of workdays and days off with another employee who is qualified to replace the absent employee. Such trades must be cleared with the responsible supervisor and must be in accordance with the terms of collective bargaining agreements.\n\n##### 517.62 Administrative Policy\n\n###### 517.621 Reassignments\n\nThe following provisions concern reassignments:\n\n1. Arbitrary reassignments of other employees are not made to permit absences of employees for military duty. An employee having military drills or military training responsibility should attempt to bid on a work assignment (when the opportunity presents itself) that will not conflict with military duties.\n2. Employees requesting a temporary schedule change must submit PS Form 3189 (with PS Form 3971) to the appropriate postal official at their installation (see Handbook F–21, 232.23).\n\n###### 517.622 Rescheduling\n\nAn employee desiring absences for military duty may be rescheduled if such action can be taken without increasing costs or adversely affecting the service to other employees. Every effort should be made to work out these problems as satisfactorily as possible.\n\n#### 517.7 Records Control\n\n##### 517.71 General Paid Military Leave\n\nThe following provisions concern general paid military leave allowance:\n\n1. _Full-time Employees._ When full–time employees request general paid military leave, i.e., for other than law enforcement duty, offices must check AAD935P3, _Military — Leave Report,_ to ascertain whether military leave has been advanced. If it has not, offices must submit their requests for a credit of 120 hours military leave to Payroll Processing, Eagan ASC.\n2. _Part-time Employees._ For a part-time employee, installations should check AAD935P4, _Military — Leave Potential Report,_ for the number of hours the employee is entitled and submit a request for an advance of the hours authorized on the report.\n3. _Transfers From Other Agencies._ When an employee transfers from another federal agency, a transcript must be requested detailing hours in a pay status in the prior fiscal year and the military leave used in the current fiscal year. These hours are sent to Payroll Processing, Eagan ASC, and are used in addition to the hours on the AAD935P4 report to determine hours to be advanced.\n4. _Noncareer Employees._ Offices may not authorize paid military leave for noncareer employees.\n\n##### 517.72 Paid Military Leave for Law Enforcement\n\nIf a leave request is for law enforcement purposes, installations must submit a memorandum to Payroll Processing, Eagan ASC, requesting advancement of paid military leave for law enforcement purposes for the number of hours requested, not to exceed 176 hours for a full–time employee or, for a part-time employee, the number of hours of law enforcement leave to which the employee is entitled as shown in the AAD935P4 report. 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Based on what's out there, the most precise answer is:

**"National Guard time"** and **"act of duty time"** aren't standard interchangeable terms, but the difference usually comes down to the **type of orders / duty status**.

| Term | Usually refers to |
|---|---|
| **National Guard time** | Your regular Guard status — monthly drills, annual training (AT), and routine state duty |
| **Act of duty time** | Activated duty under **Title 10 or Title 32** — federal missions, deployments, state-emergency activations, etc. |

The big practical differences:

- **Pay & benefits** — Title 10/32 "act of duty" orders bring federal active-duty pay, healthcare, and benefits like TRICARE, BHA, etc. Regular National Guard drill/AT pays differently and for fewer days.
- **USPS military leave** — The ELM 517.13 specifically authorizes paid military leave for *active duty, field/coast defense training, scheduled drills, and military aid to law enforcement* — but some state-only activations without proper authority may qualify only for unpaid leave or LWOP.
- **Retirement / service credit** — In the post you're almost certainly alluding to, the point is that **Title 10/32 deployments ("act of duty") can often be bought back for federal retirement or FERS purposes**, while routine drill-only Guard time generally cannot.

If you're talking about buying back time or how it counts toward USPS/OPM retirement or leave, the key question is whether the specific orders were **Title 10 or Title 32** — that's what makes it "act of duty" versus just ordinary weekend drill/annual training.